# Foojay Podcast #34: J-Fall Report, Part 2

> We did interviews with speakers and guests at J-Fall in the Netherlands. In this part, we touch on topics related to the developers' lives.

- URL: https://foojay.io/today/foojay-podcast-34/
- Published: 2023-11-27
- Authors: Frank Delporte
- Categories: Conference, Podcast


On November 9th, we had several interviews with the speakers and guests at the J-Fall conference in the Netherlands.

[Last week](https://foojay.io/today/foojay-podcast-33-j-fall-report-part-1/), in episode 33 of the Foojay Podcast, you could hear discussions about the evolution of Java towards the Cloud and sustainability.

In this part, we will touch on various topics related to the developers' lives.

## Video Report

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## Content

**00:00 Introduction**

**00:45 Elien Callens and Tom Cools: Leaving a Legacy**

* <https://twitter.com/elien_callens>
* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/elien-callens>
* <https://mastodon.social/@TCoolsIT>
* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-cools-17547548/>
* <https://twitter.com/TCoolsIT>
* <https://bejug.github.io/>

**06:07 Louëlla Creemers: Burn out, C# versus Java**

* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/louelladev/>

**11:25 Willem Cheizoo: IKEA effect**

* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/willemcheizoo/>
* <https://twitter.com/willem_hetzijzo>

**15:06 Tim te Beek: OpenRewrite**

* <https://twitter.com/TimteBeek>
* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/timtebeek/>[](https://www.linkedin.com/in/timtebeek/)
* <https://foojay.io/today/openrewrite-automatic-code-refactoring-and-maintenance/>
* <https://foojay.io/today/we-all-grow-older-but-do-our-projects-really-have-to-openrewrite/>

**20:10 Elvira van der Ven: Java in Education**

* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/elvira-van-der-ven-5260b48/>

**23:17 Lutske de Leeuw: Machine Learning**

* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lutske/>

**29:00 Roy Wasse: Certification and job interviews**

* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/roywasse/>
* <https://twitter.com/roywasse>
* <https://foojay.io/today/foojay-developer-certification-measure-skills/>

**32:53 Outro**

## Host

**Frank Delporte: Introduction**

* <https://foojay.social/@frankdelporte>[](https://foojay.social/@frankdelporte)
* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankdelporte/>
* <https://foojay.io/today/author/frankdelporte/>

## Music

* Barbershop John
* Hermine Deurloo
* Synapse by Shane Ivers - [https://www.silvermans](https://www.silvermansound.com)